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The OH and I are feeling a bit "lost off" (as they say here in Geordieland) at the moment. Last Sunday we waved goodbye to our youngest daughter, Kate, and her boyfriend, Craig, as they set off on their six-month trip exploring India and south-east Asia. It's a wonderful adventure for them, and has been well over a year in the planning. We're very excited for them, and more than a little envious, but there's no getting away from the fact that no matter how old your kids are you never stop worrying about them! And it does feel strange to think that they're so far away and won't be back for such a long time! Thank goodness for Facebook messaging, WhatsApp, texting and Skype!

My computer time has been extremely limited lately as not only have we been helping Kate prepare for her trip we've also had a friend staying with us for a few weeks. I did however make sure that I followed the discussion of 'The Secrets Beneath' in the [livejournal.com profile] ci5hq Reading Room. There has been some debate there recently as to whether it's a good idea to include fic written by folks who are still active in the fandom - my own take on the matter is that I was so, so chuffed that somebody cared enough about the story to want to nominate it for discussion in the first place (*bows to [livejournal.com profile] nypagan*)! I wasn't expecting it to be universally loved (although I was hoping that it wasn't universally loathed *g*), and I didn't have any preconceived ideas as to what opinions people might express. The most I was hoping for was that it might generate a dozen or so comments. So, it was a thrill to read all the ensuing discussion and really interesting to see just what everyone thought of the story. Many thanks then to everyone who took part, I thoroughly enjoyed the whole experience (even though I was dying to add my own two-hap'orth on occasions! *g*).

Date: 2015-10-07 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shooting2kill.livejournal.com
that no matter how old your kids are you never stop worrying about them

My mum always used to say that! And that she worried more when we grew up and got married, but I'm sure the 'lost' feeling will gradually get better, especially when you start to follow their adventures on FB etc.

It would have been great if you'd entered the discussion, particularly for your feedback on Bodie and his tweeds! (Any chance of a sequel?)

Date: 2015-10-07 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] londonronnie.livejournal.com
It would have been great if you'd entered the discussion, particularly for your feedback on Bodie and his tweeds! (Any chance of a sequel?)

I was tempted, believe me! *g* I don't really think it's a good idea for the writer to get involved in discussions like this though. Seems to me that it might put some people off expressing their true opinions if they know that the writer is taking part, hence I decided to keep schtum. As for a sequel, well I have given it quite a bit of a thought over the years. I have had a few ideas as to how the story might evolve but alas I've never actually got around to writing it. Never say never though! *g*

Date: 2015-10-07 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heliophile-oxon.livejournal.com
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You know when I win the lottery I'm going to bribe you with anything you like to write that sequel. In fact I'm going to buy an extra ticket tomorrow, see if I don't *bg*

That was a fun discussion! I didn't quite expect to find us wandering off into the merits of tweed or twill vs cords and brogues vs boots though *g*

My eldest recently graduated and moved away, and I'm so happy for her and it's wonderful - but at the same time it takes some getting used to! I hope K and C have a fantastic trip with plenty of great adventures, throughout all of which they stay hale and happy and safe.

Date: 2015-10-08 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] londonronnie.livejournal.com
It was fun, wasn't it! I found it all fascinating! *g*

You certainly get pulled in two directions when your kiddiwinks strike off on their own, don't you. Kate moved away from home over 11 years ago, but she's always lived within 20 minutes walk of our house. Knowing that she's on the other side of the world is going to take a bit of getting used to!

Don't forget to let me know how you get on with the lottery, by the way... ;)

Date: 2015-10-07 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sc-fossil.livejournal.com
I hope your daughter and BF have a fabulous adventure!

I have no problem with fic by writers still active in fandom being discussed. When one of mine has been the subject of discussion, I find I need to let folks talk away without me saying anything. I don't want to stifle the discussion.

I didn't get a chance to take part but that is one of my fav stories of yours!

Date: 2015-10-08 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] londonronnie.livejournal.com
Thank you! They've already had to cope with a couple of unexpected changes to their plans, but they seem to be taking it all their stride so far...

When one of mine has been the subject of discussion, I find I need to let folks talk away without me saying anything. I don't want to stifle the discussion.

Yes, I agree. I think it's best if the writer views it all from a distance and resists the temptation to get involved.

but that is one of my fav stories of yours!

Thank you! That's very good to know! *g*

Date: 2015-10-07 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msmoat.livejournal.com
Oh, wow. What a fantastic opportunity for your daughter...and I can well understand the mixture of envy and worry. There's no way you won't worry. But it is fabulous that we can stay so well connected these days!

I agree with you about author intrusion into the RR discussions. Well, I'm of two minds, really, as I'd also really love to have the author's input in the discussion, too. But I do think that in fannish culture, having the author right there would stifle discussion. And yet, I'd love to be able to ask questions... Yes, okay, so I'm wishy-washy! *g*

Do you know, though, that's a story of your that I haven't read? Yes, it is shocking. What happens is that I'm sort of savoring it--keeping it handy for when I have time and can just disappear into the story, because I'm pretty sure of really liking it. Only, then I forget that I have it, and years go by...until I'm reminded and then I want to savor it and wait till I have proper time, and what if I don't have this story in my pocket anymore? Okay, no one said I was a logical person. *g* Anyway, I'm going to read it! After the BBs! Because I'm pretty darn sure that I'm really going to like it.

Date: 2015-10-08 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
I'd also really love to have the author's input in the discussion, too. But I do think that in fannish culture, having the author right there would stifle discussion. And yet, I'd love to be able to ask questions..

Well yes - when I first met Helen Raven I spent an awful lot of time quizzing her about Heat Trace, and she happily talked away even though it had been quite a few years since she finished it, so that was brilliant... I do think that's something different from a collective reader discussion, though. One is like a panel-of-one-author session at a Writer's Festival, the other isn't?

Date: 2015-10-08 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] londonronnie.livejournal.com
But it is fabulous that we can stay so well connected these days!

I think I'd be a nervous wreck if I wasn't able to keep tabs on them! *g*

But I do think that in fannish culture, having the author right there would stifle discussion. And yet, I'd love to be able to ask questions...

Maybe there could be a Q & A section on the Comm...

Because I'm pretty darn sure that I'm really going to like it.

Oh dear, now I'm all nervous in case you hate it!

Date: 2015-10-08 05:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paris7am.livejournal.com
Oh my - what an adventure for K! I can only imagine how it will enrich life for them...

I love your story and I only wish I had had more time to really discuss more deeply. But, the thread remains there - discussions continue on! Add me to the list of those asking about a sequel, please. :)

Date: 2015-10-08 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] londonronnie.livejournal.com
I can only imagine how it will enrich life for them...

Oh yes, indeed! It really is the trip of a lifetime for them!

Add me to the list of those asking about a sequel, please. :)

Thanks for all your lovely comments. Your name is duly added *g*

Date: 2015-10-08 06:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sw33n3y.livejournal.com
I can understand your concerns with your daughter trekking off into the wild blue yonder, but the online communication should help ease any worries.

I haven't had the pleasure of reading 'The Secrets Beneath' yet, but I'm about to add it to my reading list. It's always nice to hear someone enjoys your work.



Date: 2015-10-08 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] londonronnie.livejournal.com
the online communication should help ease any worries.

Oh yes, it's a godsend. I've already had a phone call from them via Skype, and they're posting on Facebook every day, so I know exactly what they're getting up to! *g*

I'm about to add it to my reading list

Thank you! I really hope that you enjoy it!

Date: 2015-10-08 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ali15son.livejournal.com
i hope your daughter and her boyfriend have a fabulous time and i'm sure they will gain so much from their experience.

I don't join in the discussions at ci5hq though i have read your story and would love a sequel..the reason i don't join in is because i am not very good at writing down want i want to say so hence the lack of when really what i want to say is how wonderful it was and you know me and my Bodie , if he's involved then i love it x

Date: 2015-10-08 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] londonronnie.livejournal.com
i hope your daughter and her boyfriend have a fabulous time and i'm sure they will gain so much from their experience.

Thank you!

you know me and my Bodie , if he's involved then i love it

Yes, I certainly do! *g* Maybe I will write that sequel one day then...

Date: 2015-10-08 08:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
I hope the young 'uns have a happy & safe trip.

I didn't get into the discussion this time, not because I didn't want to (and I want to read what others have said), but because I was going away for the weekend at the wrong time of month and work was so fricking busy - including packing for moving offices yesterday and today! Agree with you that it's important to have space where readers can discuss without the inhibition of author presence - on the other hand an author who is willing to discuss their creative process also an excellent thing - just don't confuse the two, for that way lies trouble.

I even saved a copy to my notepad, thinking I'd read it in the evenings - I remembered liking it very much last time I read it, which was some time ago *g*.

Date: 2015-10-08 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] londonronnie.livejournal.com
I hope the young 'uns have a happy & safe trip.

Thank you!

just don't confuse the two, for that way lies trouble.

Absolutely, couldn't agree more!

Date: 2015-10-08 08:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlightmead.livejournal.com
Oh, poor you (and OH), suddenly adrift! I hope they have a lovely time - and that they let you know every so often1

I wouldn't have minded you joining in at all, although I can see the point - we might not have *had* all the happy speculation about different materials then, with bonus screencaps too. Or covers! But if you feel like chipping in, or writing a little thing about writing it, I'd certainly read that!

Also, can I say, I was quite jealous - I would love to see what people "really" think of mine, in an environment like that where it is okay to say, 'well, actually...' :)

Brilliant to hear from you - I think of you often. Just recently watched the start of Boy Meets Girl, not (so much) for the topic, but because one of the publicity photos had a shot of the Tyne Bridge, and I was thinking of the Quayside and of the Ouseburn, and the views ... Hope you get a chance to enjoy them now and look out at the Blinky Eye and think of the views Kate and Craig are seeing.

Date: 2015-10-08 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] londonronnie.livejournal.com
I hope they have a lovely time - and that they let you know every so often

Thank you! They're doing well at keeping in touch so far, I just hope that the novelty doesn't wear off too soon!

although I can see the point - we might not have *had* all the happy speculation

Oh yes, that was all so much fun, I would have hated to have spoilt it all by sticking my oar in.

I would love to see what people "really" think of mine, in an environment like that where it is okay to say, 'well, actually...' :)

I was thrilled when I saw that the story had been added to the Reading Room schedule. The thought that it had made a big enough impression (whether for good or bad) upon someone for them to nominate it was so exciting!

Just recently watched the start of Boy Meets Girl, not (so much) for the topic, but because one of the publicity photos had a shot of the Tyne Bridge, and I was thinking of the Quayside and of the Ouseburn, and the views ...

Oh, I've been watching that too, I've actually become quite hooked on it in a strange sort of way *g*. It's great for location spotting too! They used The Tyne pub at the mouth of the Ouseburn for one of the scenes and it features in the closing titles too. We had a nice walk along there one day, didn't we, and then along the Quayside into town...

It's so lovely to hear from you, m'dear. I believe I owe you an email - I shall remedy that asap. Take care, sunshine x

Date: 2015-10-08 09:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solosundance.livejournal.com
Oh gosh yes, I feel for you - the mixed emotions of grown-up children flying the coop and then (ack!) going away on travels... Perhaps it's my own ageing process at work but I find I worry more about my two the older they get and the more they're "out there". It also makes me appreciate my own parents even more because I'm sure I cared not a jot about their worries when I was young and fancy free. And back then could always use the excuse that I couldn't find a working payphone or whatever :D

I'm sure K and C will have a fabulous time (how very exciting going off to explore the world together!) and as others have said, thank goodness for our modern ease of communication.

Date: 2015-10-08 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] londonronnie.livejournal.com
I find I worry more about my two the older they get and the more they're "out there".

You'd think it would get easier, wouldn't you, but somehow it doesn't seem to work like that...

I'm sure I cared not a jot about their worries when I was young and fancy free.

Oh to be young and carefree again! *g*

I'm sure K and C will have a fabulous time

Oh yes, I've absolutely no doubt that they will. The trip of a lifetime!
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